You should pray for mistakes. Ein rasantes Interview mit Nina

You should pray for mistakes, they are a good way to improve your personality.


Nina ist 21 Jahre alt und träumt davon nach New York zu gehen. Sie glaubt nicht daran, dass dies jemals wahr wird. Ich lerne diese bemerkenswerte junge Frau bei einem Weihnachtsbasar für Expats kennen. Wir polieren Gläser in der Küche. Als ich einen jungen Mann zum Mithelfen motiviere, trotz heftiger Proteste seiner Tante (sie würde es für ihn machen, Männer sollten nicht in der Küche helfen), ist Nina begeistert und wir kommen ins Gespräch. Sie spricht geradezu perfektes Englisch, obwohl sie nie im englischsprachigen Ausland gewesen ist.  Bei dem Interview kommen ihre Antworten wie aus der Pistole geschossen, sprachlich, grammatikalisch, inhaltlich einwandfrei, als hätte sie tagelang daran gefeilt; dabei hört sie die Fragen zum ersten Mal.

Nina trägt schräge Hüte und studiert Filmkritik. Ihre Mutter wollte, dass sie Wirtschaft studierte und Nina war einverstanden. Doch beim Ausfüllen des Anmeldeformulars schrieb sie sich spontan für Filmkritik ein: „If you study cinema you study everything: politics, psychology, society, art psychology, history, stories.“ Aber die Universität mache die Studenten faul. Hätten sie einen 600Seiten-Roman zu behandeln, würde der Lehrer nach einer Weile sagen: „Schaut euch den Film an, das reicht auch.“ Doch nicht einmal dies würden die meisten tun. Sie selbst sei keine wahnsinnig gewissenhafte Studentin, und doch besser als der Rest. Sie möchte an einer guten Universität studieren, aber alle Unis in Tbilisi seien schlecht. Englisch habe sie durch Privatlehrer von der vierten bis zur zwölften Klasse gelernt; viele Eltern vertrauten der Schulbildung nicht und so würden die Kinder in allen wichtigen Fächern wie Mathematik, Physik, Chemie zusätzlich durch Privatlehrer unterrichtet. Im Russischunterricht habe sie malen gelernt: Die Lehrerin habe zehn Jahre lang am liebsten die gleichen Geschichten von ihrem Sohn Sascha erzählt – auf Georgisch. Aus Langeweile begann Nina zu malen.

Ninas Vater ist schon lange arbeitslos, die Mutter hat ihren Job in der Nationalbank nach Saakashvilis Reformen verloren. Nun leben die Eltern auf dem Land, der Traum ihrer Mutter. Nina lebt seit vier Jahren ohne ihre Eltern:

It’s really not very common to share flats, because young people are not working and have no money to pay. This is a big problem for Georgian people: They don’t do anything for change. That’s a big problem, because everyone needs to be separate from the family to grow personally. I ran from my family because I didn’t need anyone to take care of me. I talked to my friends, that I wanted to leave my house. One said she could share her flat with me. For almost three months my parents paid my bills, then I stopped taking the money and worked. It was really hard, because I changed my live completely. I thought that I hated them, then realized that I missed the way my parents were to me. It’s the greatest pleasure when you come home and your parents start treating you as an adult. My parents saw that I’m independent, so when my friend got married and moved to her husband, they decided that I would live in another flat.

What do you do in your spare time?

If I have free time, I’m watching films – the ones I have to. I’m reading, before I go to sleep. I meet friends… What else am I doing? I’m not going shopping. Sometimes I walk, that’s it. I used to do fencing, I do handcraft, I like to go out of the city and just get energy from ground and trees, do nothing.

What are you hoping to get in life?

What I’m waiting for is to find my happiness, find a job which will be interesting for me. To find things I like. I’m not waiting to be a millionaire, but I really want to be a successful person. I want to be a satisfied person who can help other people to be successful.

What means happiness to you?

The biggest happiness comes from success, when you’re good in something. When there’s a lot of new things for you. When you meet people in the street, who you haven’t seen in a long time. It’s little things, details. The sun is big happiness for me, especially after cold weather.

How important is religion to you?

Religion is pathetic. Religious people in Georgia are blind followers who have no knowledge about life, that’s why they are followers. Religion, here, is just a big show to control people, created by priests. Stupid priests, who don’t know anything, who became priests, because they had nothing else to do. They have big bellies and talk about their opinion, but not God’s.

I don’t say that I don’t believe in God. I try to find His spirit in my heart. The church is not home of God. My father doesn’t need a building, either. He can pray if he feels like it. But I never saw him praying.

[Nina erzählt die Anekdote, wie die Georgier von Gott ihr Land bekamen: ]

People from everywhere have to meet in front of God to get there share. The Georgians are late and say: “We were drinking for your sake, that’s why we’re late!” God thinks: “They are honest and kind.” He gives them the piece of land, that He had wanted for Himself.

Georgians, these bastards, take ground which was for God; these stupid people, they have nothing to be proud of. It’s weird for me.

Have you been abroad?

I went to the Netherlands for a training, two years ago. The air was amazing, I still remember the smell. It was November. And it is unforgettable that people were living in houses without curtains! No one cares what you do, no one is watching you. If you live behind closed curtains, you are trying to hide.

What is your relationship to Tbilisi?

I grew up here. I love it. I like the old part, the atmosphere amongst the old buildings, its special smell, the history that it keeps.

But there is a group of people, mostly boys, who make you feel uncomfortable. Ten years ago they were everywhere, the last two years they had disappeared. I cannot understand why now they are coming back, maybe from prisons (3000 got free), maybe because of unemployment.

How do you feel about Georgia?

We all need to be in the Shengen Zone. But I don’t know where Europe will bring us: Georgians are losing their own identity, their lifestyle, good traditions. There are three million people with a lot of talent, they just need to use it. We need a system of good education and people need to get the chance to go abroad. It’s the 21st century, but many have no elementary comfort, it’s very sad. When the government talks about Georgia, it talks about Tbilisi in real. And though Tbilisi is one city, one part is civilized, the other one is in darkness. In Vake [quarter of the city], there live intellectual people, who have money and a good communication system. Further out live people from villages who are fine with a 1room-flat, who are happy to work for one Lari. The problem is knowledge.

I want to go abroad to get a qualification, then come back and do something.

What changed in the last five to ten years?

Everything, the whole mentality is changing. Ten years ago my family would invite tourists simply to enjoy, because it was their pleasure to be hospitable. Now, when they see a tourist with money – they try to earn money. It’s a lie, if they say that we’re keeping the traditions: They do it only to show up, it’s not authentic.

What is the „typical“ Georgian?

[Zum ersten Mal kommt die Antwort nicht, als hätte sie sie längst vorbereitet. Nina überlegt.]

Lazy. Talented. Both at the same time.

There is one model of life: The wife is in the kitchen.  After the 90ies, men gave up and stayed on the sofa. Women got the power and ran life; they were working and working. Women became more active, but still, men didn’t give up the leadership, they preserved the rules and the family system. Women agreed formally, because they didn’t earn enough money. What a fake system! Outside of Vake, Saburtalo and Rustaveli area there is still mentality problem; women think men are the highest.

Still now, around me, people are more civilized, modern.

How do you see the woman’s role in Georgia?

Crime on women is common. Women think, that they deserve bad treatment. They know, that they need to be good girls. So, around me, virginity is not important, but it still works.

Womens’ new behaviour, the way they talk and dress, comes from cheap soap operas, they want to be „sold“. But men would never marry this kind of girls.

How do you see your possibilities as a woman?

Women can do really everything. There is no tabu, plus you can destroy tabus – the problem is: Who is ready for it?

If people don’t move, they don’t get anywhere.


Juli 2013